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glenn_aircooled



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject: Singh Grooves. Reply with quote

Very Simple modification done inside the combustion chamber.
Clever Indian inventor claims very big improvements
in MPG and emmissions and cooler running.

http://www.somender-singh.com/
I will be cutting these Grooves this Thur Night.
See how they go.!
Just a small portion of the Text from this site: ( I just love this stuff.! )
Singh WROTE:
Forbidden Fruit PDF Print E-mail
Written by Somender Singh
Tuesday, 30 May 2006

'Forbidden Fruit'

As yet, the importance of Nitrogen to the combustion process has been completely overlooked. Read on to see how the greater mass/volume of N2 being squeezed in the groove disperses the combustable O2 molecules better into the fuel helping achieve optimum burn.

" FORBIDDEN FRUIT " has brought about a lot of Curiosity, Commotion & Exchange of thoughts in various pockets of enthusiasts in different parts of the world after a few knowledgeable people were quick to realize the potentials in improvements after grooving different types of 2 valve cylinder heads in their own capacities. It is also interesting to note, how many more are looking up to this simple design change as fuel gets dearer.

All these findings remind me of my earlier days, when I hit upon this crazy idea by deforming different types of 2 & 4 stroke combustion chambers with 'steps & scars' ? After all my experiments with squishing finally ended up in slamming the piston into the head ! To most, Grooving as an idea sounded stupid if not a ridiculous one, to overcome present limitations set by squish (or call it ' quench' ).

It still remains so, with many ? The general belief now is, 'too much turbulence is not good for emissions' ? Some say it is out of fashion, as Gasoline Direct Injection and Common Rail Direct Injection technologies with over 30,000 psi at their disposal can create the desired turbulence in the chamber with the least emissions ! Most don't realize, all this "hard ware & soft wear" does not come cheap and needs 'pure' fuels to perform at their best and last out a full term ! Meanwhile, what happens to all the existing engines that have their own limitations (by design) to combat fuel prices ?

The best part of this simple mod is, you can hack your own head to bring about these 'sudden' changes in your very own old engines with just basic hand tools & a little application of common sense! It is almost like changing an age-old black & white photograph into one with colours, with just one stroke of a brush !? Some call it the 'Harry Potter' effect! You also end-up Pushing Detonation & Pinging into the past !? The limit lies in finding optimum higher compression ratios with respect to the fuel in use, after Grooving ! Nothing more !

" End of the day ; You are the Master of your own Destiny " ! ?

Some also call it the"Forbidden Fruit" as you can get to peel & taste each layer by yourself, while going deeper into understanding the Mysteries surrounding the thresholds of In-Cylinder Combustion. You also get to see everything unfold in your very own private lab using any old engine to better it, with basic hand tools, supported by common sense, to eventually enjoy the taste of this 'New Found Fruit ' which never existed before !?

Coming back to basics : Lets look at some ' Hard Facts ' !

Progressive turbulence 'lasting out' inside a diminishing cylinder on the compression stroke determines the "final" outcome of combustion in any IC Engine ! Collective turbulence greatly shortens the 'ignition delay period' further accelerating the growth of an expanding flame front across the chamber close to tdc. At this point there lies a thin red line separating 'detonation' from 'fast burn combustion' consuming the entire charge in a jiffy ! The groove (or call it a channel ) placed through the existing quench pads will greatly promote fast burn combustion suppressing most forms of spontaneous detonation which invariably occur in pockets of rich mixtures spread out unevenly in most 'non grooved' combustion chambers, due to the lack of progressive turbulence in them. Lack of mixing in the charge, results in uneven, erratic burn - resulting in some unburnt fuel, making emissions of CO & NOx inevitable.

What Grooved Turbulence actually manages to achieve, is a much better "mix & spread" of the largest constituent present in natural 'free air' called - Nitrogen.

N2 is an inert gas and its "even" distribution with the remaining 21% of Oxygen (O2) along with the unstable hydrocarbon molecules gives rise to a truly ideal homogeneous mixture within the compressing charge prior to ignition. Grooving brings about a ballet between the non-combustible molecules and a small percent of unstable Hydrocarbon molecules as the cylinder diminishes bringing them ever closer, causing friction between the two, leading to heat build-ups as the piston forms the combustion chamber at TDC.

What follows after ignition is a chemical reaction, due to the applied heat spreading into the Hydrocarbons and popping them into atoms in the presence of Oxygen, to start a thermal reaction called 'combustion' resulting in instant by-products of molecules made up of H2O in the form of super heated steam along with CO2 bringing about some fantastic expansions in the buffer gases largely made up of Nitrogen, due to the even heat build-ups in the confined chamber achieved out of grooving. It is this 'rapid expansion' within the spread-out Nitrogen molecules, making up the largest and heaviest expanding commodity trapped within the cylinder along with the fast-expanding super-heated steam which are collectively responsible for acting forcefully on the piston in an expanding cylinder to propel all types of IC Engines by spinning the crankshaft with the help of pistons & conrods!

Grooving enables a better spread of the super heated Steam & Nitrogen to apply far greater pressures on a larger surface area of the piston crown through the squish areas to eventually register improved torque for every degree of crank shaft rotation past TDC on the power stroke. This form of accelerated laminar fast-burn combustion leaves no pockets of rich mixtures or un-burnt fuel mixtures to spontaneously ignite or explode into 'ping' or 'knock'. This form of even 'quick burn combustion' results in far lesser heat absorption into the cylinder and more of the heat going into expansions delivering smoother and silent engine operations further achieving sustained improved power, stroke after stroke.

Now imagine trying to run your Petrol or Diesel Engine minus the vital 78% of Nitrogen in..............

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was going through my hotrod years, folks talked about everything but creating turbulence. I'm sure I never gave it much thought, but if I had, my 1st impression would have been that there ought to be plenty of turbulence in that cylinder with all of the air, fuel, valves, and piston moving at such high speeds in such a confined space.

There's a more in depth article on this guy on the picture site. On the upper right there's a quote with a link to "more".

Coffey

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He writes some Great Theory.
We will see how this all goes when combined with
MASSIVE amounts of Hyd/Oxy as well.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenn,

I saw your posts of the new cells you made. You make progress by leaps and bounds. Wish I had your energy! Wish I had more uninterrupted time.

Coffey

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am VERY Keen, Or Highly motivated to reduce my fuel costs.
Then I want to Go Big time into alternate energy.
One aspect of this is High V pulsing.............................Meyer...

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was Wrong.!
He is a Brilliant ..!

My Singh Grooves are approx 4mm deep, I tried to extend right to the edge
of the bore and it shallowed toward the ends.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
OUTSTANDING SUCCESS...!
I drove the car today.
Before I drove, I leaned off the fuel..( from 180 Main Jet to 170 ), I advanced
the timing from 4 Deg Advanced to 7.5 Deg Advanced.
Running on 91 Octane - READ Cheap Rubbish Low Octane . . . . . . . .
I could not get it to Ping...!
It ran Cooler...!
More bottom end power...!
More responsive to accelerator down low...!
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Now this is without any Hyd/Oxy. (seeing I lent my unit to a friend to try).
Next excitement is to connect My New Improved Hydrolyser..............mmmmmmm
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The Singh Grooves WORK... Very Happy Very Happy
http://somender-singh.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow,

Just run across this part of the web site.

Just wondering how many grooves should be cut in the heads?

Would it be as effective to have some in the piston as well?

If I were to cut the grooves should there be one on each side of the spark plug region ?

If I cut grooves in the heads, should grooves in the piston be at 90* angles to the grooves in the heads?

I guess I am looking for optimal performance for a 1 time modification Smile

Any feedback is good feedback.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think I would mess with the piston.
Just my opinion, but I think the piston has enough stress already, plus, the engine is supposed to be somewhat balanced, and taking metal off the piston may throw that balance off.

If you saw the dozens of examples of grooving the squish space, everything is geared toward creating turbulence and directing it at the sparkplug. Some folks got pretty creative. As for whether more grooves is better, I have no idea.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! Join a new forum just to learn and ask questions and lo and behold, there is a subject I have a small level of expertise with.

I have grooved about a half dozen heads with very satisfying results:
- '89 Chrysler LeBaron, 2.5 turbo, 3-speed AT.
> HP went from 152 to 415 (with bigger turbo, IC, custom cal, heavy porting, etc.)
> Economy went from 23/27 to 35/42 miles per US gallon

- '97 Saturn SL1, 1.9 SOHC, 5-speed
> HP went from 100 to 130 (along with mild porting)
> Economy went from 42 to 55 country driving

- '00 Ford Ranger 2.5 4-speed AT (very little porting whatsoever)
> Power equivelent to 3.0 V-6
> Economy went from 25 combined to 32 combined

I could add a couple more, but let it suffice it to say that I believe in them.

At least for petrol engines, the groove evacuates the squish pad providing even more cylinder turbulence, but also relieves the back corners of the squish pad where detonation occurs. Most of the engines I groove also receive increased compression (including one of the turbo engines I did).

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wanted to pass on an update on this:

I was reading a Farm Show magizine and run across this process.

It was used in a gas lawnmower in the typical manor, on the head.

Mainly it was used in a diesel and cutting into the piston.

They cut 3 different sections out, 1 stright, 2 curved.

Starting close to the center and ending close to the rings.

This was 3/32 inch depth and 1/16 inch wide.

In the Farm Show article there was no mention of motor problems, they did mention a 20 to 40 percent fuel improvement.

They also listed the website for more details: http://www.somender-singh.com/
( I know we already have the website listed).

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