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Hi Guys

see these two video clips below


Charging Water


http://www.waterfuelcell.org/WFCprojects/Joe Cell/Charging Water.wmv


Shock Group

http://www.waterfuelcell.org/WFCprojects/Joe Cell/Shock Group.wmv


They were taken from the Yahoo Joe Cell Group

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/


They interest me because I would like to charge my own water and atomize it into a engine and see any performance increase that may be different to normal water injection, mainly because of this quote by Stan Meyer.

To quote from Hydrogen Fracturing book

"The oxygen atom having less than four electrons is unable to reach stable state (six to eight electrons are required) when the two hydrogen atoms seeks to form the water molecule during thermal gas ignition.”

I will rig up a fly back soon to run a few tests.

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Tero a person I have high respect for has emailed me concerning the charged water presentation. Here is his opinion on it below.....


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As far as the "shocker bottle" is concerned I think the charge exists in the plastic bottle itself.

You know what's an electret? It's made by putting a piece of plastic between two conductor plates. First you heat up the plastic and then apply a couple of kV of high voltage across the plates and let the plastic cool down. That gives you a piece of plastic that has charge all the time.

I think the same is happening to the plastic bottle in the "shocker bottles". You could put the plastic bottle in boiling salt water and also pour boiling salt water inside it, apply HV power supply terminals to the salt water on the inside and outside of the bottle, and let the water and the bottle cool down.

Or you could substitute the outer salt water with aluminum foil.

PS. Read towards the end of this page (the Feedback section)

http://pesn.com/2006/04/14/9600258_Joe_Cell_Shocker_Bottle/

"I will say though, I have experimented with these bottles quite a bit and I have found that most of the charge (90%) resides in the plastic bottle itself ".


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Hi Guys

this is pretty amazing see these videos below



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here is a copy of the replies he has had to a few questions ........keep a eye on the links for more questions and replys

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eatbutnotpuke
Hi ddanos68!
that's amazing. how did you change the structure of the water? maybe electrolysis in a pressurized container to force the hho gas back into the water??
thx

ddanvos68
h30 Instead of H20

eatbutnotpuke
that's exciting.
and how did you make H3O?

ddanvos68
Ionization

ddanvos68
ionization

kazuza9
hi guys, this is amazing, is it possible to tell us and show us how u done it , plz plz plz, u r tthe man from heaven...Smile

ddanvos68
The problem that I have had with it is that it takes so much of this water to make it run. I would say 1 gallon will run the car for 1 min. It doesnt have much power. Yet

RTFD123
It will work much better when the engine is warmed up. The block is sucking away all the thermo energy when it's cold.

ddanvos68
Thanks for the advice!

hydrocarz (
you know if you use less STC Crystals next time it want be hard to start! why do you hide what you know? we're not stupid. you can only help speed us up by trying to help lol. good luck

ddanvos68
Thought about that but the water must be ionized again. It seems

brianempson
Maybe an onboard ionizer? How much energy does it take to ionize the water?

ddanvos68
Not how much energy its how long it took 3 weeks to make the water that I poured in the video. I have since moved on from this but maybe with a few years of improvment it would work.

Casper886
dose the water burns? thks

1alien2
When will you post your next video on the car running again? And you said you made some mods to the carb, what did you do to it?

dudeshaggydude
dude that's crazy.


also see his other videos showing how a electrical arc reacts to uncharged and charged water


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Link




here is a copy of the replies he has had to a few questions ........keep a eye on the links for more questions and replys

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CarbideTip
Very interesting videos.

Thank you.

oystla h34
What do you mean by "charged", and how did you "charge it" ?

ddanvos68
Water ph of -1 by ionization.

brianempson
So that would really hurt if you put your finger in it...

december105 (
What kind of power supply is driving the arc, what voltage?????????

ddanvos68
I cant remember but thats not the point of the video. Maybe 3000 volts

december105
yes i understand just curious about the voltage.............

AllgoodAutomation
What Electrolyte are you using to Charge the water?

ddanvos68

Nothing, Only thru ionization using high voltage and a membrane.

whitenight639
is that supposed to be possible? have you tried burning this charged water??

ddanvos68
Watch my other videos? I run a chevette shortly

whitenight639
cool cant wait to see it, i did see you trying to run a car, Thanks for sharing this its amazing. you should be real close to just running on water alone then, be careful.
hope you could do a video on how you made your water charging apparatus and membrane etc.
thanks again

AllgoodAutomation
Is your Membrane a PEM Proton Exchange Membrane?

ddanvos68
Yes but I made my own

AllgoodAutomation
Wow!! can you Share how you make it?

IdiotSlapper
Hi,

That is real interesting. I would be interested to know more about the membrane, etc.

Since you would be the first if you made money and found happiness by selling some free energy device why not share more? You can profit along with everyone else.




So in summary we are looking at producing a ph of -1 possibly producing H30 using a PEM Proton Exchange Membrane and HV DC ? ....we have to give this a go guys !

I had my suspicions that was what Steve Ryan was doing here

http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=40

I think charged water is real and this is pretty exciting!!!!!

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